Friday Fun – When someone gives you negative feedback on your writing

Friday Fun is a group post from the writers of the NHWN blog. Each week, we’ll pose and answer a different, get-to-know-us question. We hope you’ll join in by providing your answer in the comments.

QUESTION: You have just shared your most recent work with someone – a family member, trusted “beta reader,” colleague, etc. – and their feedback was not as enthusiastically positive as you’d hoped. In fact, some comments were downright harsh. How do you feel? How to you react? What do you say to them, and what do you do next?

Lisa J. JacksonLisa J. Jackson: Mixed bag answer to this one. If it’s someone who can give me honest feedback, then I’ll take their comments respectfully and evaluate my piece. I’d have to consider the reader’s interests and strengths in feedback, too. My piece could just be something the reader doesn’t enjoy or has a particular strong reaction to. It all depends, I guess is the answer.

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hennrikus-web2Julie Hennrikus: It took me a long time to realize that not all feedback was useful. I write in the mystery genre. People who don’t like the genre are not necessarily going to give me the best feedback on plot or characters. And some people want you to write the book their way, so the feedback isn’t helpful since you are writing the book. And then there’s the feedback of “this doesn’t work, what is this, I don’t understand that” that is painful, but so, so valuable. Because you can fix those things.  So the pain is worth it.

I have a very limited list of first readers, and an even smaller list of potential editors. New work is fragile, and needs to be handled with a bit of care, and a lot of tough love.

Deborah Lee Luskin: More than thirty years ago, a friend asked to read a short story I’d written. When she finished, she said, “Oh, I see how that character is like your brother.” “Whaat?” I said – truly bewildered. “Michael,” she said. It wasn’t until she said it I realized the character and one of my brothers had the same name. And that’s when the light-bulb went off: Friends and family assume that the narrator and the author are the same, that my stories are all autobiographical, and that the characters are all family and friends. In fact, they’re looking to find themselves.

Ever since then, I have a strict rule when family and friends ask to read my work. I either direct them to something that’s published, or I suggest they stay healthy so they’ll still be around when the next book comes out. It does seem as if publication creates a healthy barrier, so these same friends who think that I’m writing about them when something is in draft form, become absorbed in the characters when the same story is in print.

Like Julie, I now have a very short list of first readers – and I ask for very specific information from them: What worked? Where did you start thinking of what you were going to cook for dinner? What didn’t you believe?

headshot_jw_thumbnailJamie Wallace: Hmmm … what are the five stages of grief? Oh, right: Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance. Yep. That about covers it.

Our stories are like our children. We give them the spark of life, labor over their creation, and then tentatively set them free in the world. When someone’s critique is less than flattering, grief – in all its five stages – is a perfectly appropriate response. You’ve been there, right?

Though there are certain cases (as Julie points out) where outright denial is the correct reaction, in most cases there is something to be learned from even the harshest critic. Though you may start the process by denying that there’s any value in what the reader has said, you usually end up moving past this knee-jerk reaction.

… and, on to good, old-fashioned anger. How dare she judge me? What does she know about writing anyway? I should critique her fashion sense. Now, that’s something that could use a good editing (and so on…). But anger is usually short-lived. After all, you are a professional. You know it’s not the reader’s fault if your story isn’t working, or … is it?

Bargaining is a messy business. This is the part where you try to justify your writing to the critic. You try to explain why you chose that word or killed off that character or decided to switch halfway through from third to first person. This is pointless. If the reader didn’t get it, the reader didn’t get it …

… which means that you are a terrible writer – a total hack. Bring on the depression. And, while you’re at it how about some Ben & Jerry’s and a nice bottle (or two) of chardonnay. Oh, and why don’t you queue up an Ab Fab marathon, too. Hell. Why waste time writing. You’re obviously just fooling yourself …

… except that you’re not. You are a writer. You are. There’s no need for you to let a little negative feedback unravel you completely. Breathe. Step back. Get some perspective. Accept the feedback for what it is and work with it as you see fit. Don’t make it about you. Use it to make your story better. Use it to become a better writer. That’s its purpose.

… or, maybe that’s just me.

21 thoughts on “Friday Fun – When someone gives you negative feedback on your writing

  1. All brilliant advice 🙂 Especially useful learning about the idea of asking for *specific* feedback: you’re right, feedback that comes purely from taste (eg someone saying they don’t like certain things about mystery or crime writing only because they don’t like the genre) is very rarely helpful (though sometimes it can be too, I’m sure) so asking for specific feedback may be very useful, especially if there are certain things about your work you are uncertain about yourself.

    I agree there is nearly always something to be learned from what others’ think, no matter who they are or what their taste is like. The trick is weeding out what is useful and will impove your work and not just trying to write for everyone else.

    Thank you for a very informative post.

  2. Every time when somebody say something I wanted to learn more…and I don;t give time to myself….a critique coming from someone who truly know the filed and who are not also have lots of differences……The post is lovely ..

  3. Good answers. I prefer people giving me bad feedback than just saying a piece of writing is great when I’m aware that it has issues. Sometimes bad feedback isn’t useful, but often there’s something in it.

  4. I like all of our answers.

    I like it when people give me negative feedback, as opposed to just coming back with, “This is great!” I’ve stopped giving stuff to certain people because I felt that either they were not really reading it at all, or they were just blowing smoke up my backside. Not helpful.

    I’ve stopped reading for a couple of friends because no matter how gentle I am with the feedback (and I include positive and negative), their feelings get hurt. Then I feel bad.

    This was an interesting post!

  5. This came at the right time for me. I shared your blog, along with my thoughts of my own grieving in regards to my current project on genealogy. Thank you all for your input. Happy writing and Accepting of ourselves.

  6. The second poem I ever submitted to a magazine that was requesting submissions came back with such stinking feedback I found myself instantly reaching for a pen to write something equally scathing back. I wrote it, felt much better for having ranted in equal measure and therefore didn’t need to actually send it to them.

    I try to avoid family members reading my poetry full stop as a) it seems probable that not all of my extended family would appreciate the sort of stuff I write; and b) I stand by what I wrote – it is a reflection of what I was feeling at that moment and therefore I do not expect everyone to like it or necessarily even understand it.

    I fully intend the neverending novel will remain completely invisible to family and friends until the first draft is complete and I feel mentally ready to contemplate the high probability of negative feedback with equanimity. This may take a while.

  7. I agree with the second commenter. Many people are not interested in what I write about-in particular my psychological analysis. In that case, usually have a select group of professionals that I know will give me honest feedback. When approached from a different view, their critiques are usually on the mark.

  8. Would you give any advice for when a friend of yours writes a book at it’s… shall we say, disappointing? I really don’t know how to respond, and I’m hoping they don’t ask.

  9. …this has on occasion, saddened me I must admit. Family are the harshest critics probably because they know you,the way they think you should be! I have even had comments such as, ‘what YOU, write a book!’ I have learnt to trust my peers more in giving a great,constructive critique without shooting the author down in flames …at least we all know what it’s like to put ourselves ‘out there’.

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  11. I wrote a book about a rare medical condition I experienced. I had been speaking with my doctor about it for sometime, and she received it very enthusiastically. She offered to review the manuscript, offer suggestions, even endorse it. We had many chats and she was complimentary. Then she offered to bring in two top colleagues, I was excited, but It was all downhill from there. She refused to be specific with feedback, but all she did say was that I shouldn’t publish the book. No doctor would ever endorse it, I should reconsider what I had done. She basically told me I should scrap the project. I left that call deflated, feeling like someone sucker punched me. How did this happen? I was beside myself. I didn’t know what the do. People who’d experienced this were very positive in there feedback and she had–to that point.

    Shell shocked, I decided to take a break from it.

    The next morning, I received a call from an international study society. They reviewed the book, found it “wonderful” and “long-awaited”. They offered some info on areas that weren’t 100% factually correct and suggested I tighten it up, resubmit and they’d be happy to endorse it. What just happened here?

    Two days later, I received an email from someone who is considered the top specialist for this malady in the US. He was full of praise for my effort! He offered some suggestions, including some corrections and asked how we might work together to raise awareness. I asked him to write the foreword — he agreed and sent it the next day. We promised to stay in touch and find a way to work together.

    I still don’t know what to make of all this, but I did learn the hard way that all feedback is not necessarily good feedback. I wonder if that first doctor had other plans, other motives, plans her own book, felt she wasn’t portrayed well, who knows. In the meantime, a new rare health malady struck, and everything I’d been working on had to be back-burnered while I worked through that. I do know I will go back to that original manuscript. I will rework it, mindful of everyone’s comments, but also staying true to my story. It’s not about my doctor or any doctors. It’s about my journey, how I coped, how I survived–and without any real support– going through chemotherapy, coming to terms with losing my child and the way it all happened, healing, and moving forward. It’s an important story and I will tell it. Each year 200,000 people will experience this–and I want them to know they are not alone–especially since there are really no resources available to these people.

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